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After reading Bare's desmog page. It’s all for fun so I’m going to go with the auto tune module. There is is only one 'Pair Valve' MOD! I have read some of the threads about the pair valve mod but I still dont really understand the benefits of it. A WIN WIN thing. 709 Posts . So I completed a pair valve mod last night. I used moccasinmike's kit. So I completed a pair valve mod last night. Registered. If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. “The Pair valve is nothing more than a way to get fresh air into the exhaust port to complete the burn of unburned fuel to meet federal smog regulations – it can be compared to the smog pump in a car. Original mod by Biglry – updated pics and info added by me. Is that your bike's name....? The Pair Valve, or "Secondary Air System" is a pollution control "Passive Air Injection" device, designed to "wash out" the purposely rich exhaust of the new metric bikes in order to pass EPA restrictions for import in the United States and other countries with similar restrictions. well i … • hahaha Plugs the hose, no air gets through, no leaks. “Always be kinder than necessary for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Hi the pair valve mod will be no use to you until you take the restrictor kit off. I did mine as a part of the valve adjustment. 2017 CBR1000RR (Akrapovič S/S Headers, Yoshi Alpha T Slip-On, PAIR mod, Woolich ECU flash, Air Intake Tubes blank-off) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Dude To cover off the use of the PAIR valve, as we understand them. Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 15, 2008. Pair valve mod questions. Lets see, yes ,no, no, yes , yes ,no ! I left the stock reed plates in place but put a couple of those rubber vacuum caps on the nipples. What did I do. Just picked up this new exhaust for my 2014 ninja 650. Its effects are not just on the exhaust side. Does it make any difference at all if you leave those plates or not ? Half way it sounds like a car with cam. Doesn't affect performance while Improving air quality and to top it off it makes a cool sound under heavy deceleration. Discussion Starter • #1 • May 25, 2011. ok, I have noticed lots of people think the pair valve mod is awesome. If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices. I noticed he gives you two different scenarios, one is to take out the 2 plates in order to be rid of the screw another is to use the plates with a dimple for the screw. Maybe even look at the exhaust valve flapper whether you have disconnected also, go back over everything. You guys have seen my video on the install of these plates, now you can get them directly from me! The right’s existence is all the reason he needs.”, http://www.vtxcafe.com/showthread.php/45937-carb-and-what-affects-what. • it "injects" air into the exhaust flow. As for benefits, the completely uneducated thought that I have is the less involved in the system the smoother and more efficient the system will be. (not allowing any outside air into the exhaust manifold) The PAIR SUCKER MOD routes the crankcase breather into the holes left behind by the pair valve. It's going to gain you any HP just a smoother air flow. • The extra oxygen is used to heat the O2 sensor and the Cat'Converter to operating temp. Unplug the vacuum hose from the PAIR valve and trace the other hoses and remove them from the reed valves. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > flatstickHRC Active Member. Nov 6, 2003 #2 Re-circulates spent exhaust gases. The only thing I saw was someone said it sounds better when you let off the throttle. 287 Posts . OK, after all that, the PAIR valve mod will eliminate most/all popping that occurs on deceleration when … The PAIR assembly is only an anti-smog device. Introduce yourself and say hello if you like... VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, vtxcafe.com is an Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. I'm … huh? Cookie. Pair systems get filled with carbon over the years of service and don't even function. Is it worth it , for me Yes would I do it again, yes & would I recommend it, YES ! It draws in air at idle, lower rpms to aid in cleaning up the exhaust emissioins at low or idle speeds. All the way in just cuts off. Performance & security by Cloudflare, Please complete the security check to access. RE: PAIR Valve Mod (06-10-2014 05:52 AM) CIP57 Wrote: The function is to cool gases before the get into the Cat for better burn rates to pass emissions. My bike will now not start or run u less the choke is pulled out all the way. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. Did you disconnect the stock O2 sensor when you put a full exhaust system on and the PAIR Valve Solenoid when you completed the mod, if so try plugging back in temporarily and recover via flashing back to stock. The pair valve on the other hand is worth your time. The PAIR - system - stock draws in outside air, via the air filter housing by means of a selenoid valve/switch that is regulated by things- mostly engine RPM. The solenoid valve is controlled by the PGM-FI unit and the fresh air passage is opened/closed according to the running condition. Joined: Apr 23, 2011 Messages: 1,037 Likes Received: 63. has anyone bothered to remove the PAIR system from the airbox to get a more accurate AF reading on the dyno. For the flapper mod, the howto shows how to do the reversible and the full version, but for the pair mod the page only shows the full yack out the PAIR system, but basically when you take the top of the air-box off its the hole just to the right of the filter you can follow it under the air-box to see it goes into the PAIR system to be overly cautious ! Not to mention got reid of some weight and a lot of junk. It also clears the way for easier valve adjustments. JavaScript is disabled. Mode … It probably is the fix for that and he just doesn't know any better like me! I just blocked the holes using a boat and Hose until my plates arrived. “The Pair valve is nothing more than a way to get fresh air into the exhaust port to complete the burn of unburned fuel to meet federal smog regulations – it can be compared to the smog pump in a car. Buy Pair Valve Removal Kit Hayabusa (99-07) SKU: 280093 at the price of US$ 59.99 | BrocksPerformance.com it also plays silly games with the O2 sensor, but the correction sampling seems slow to react. All the … the effect of the exhaust, through scavenging, can help draw air/fuel charge into the combustion chamber. I wonder if this is why that one pro tuner guy told me that if I take off the set vavle my bike will run like crap and backfire all the time? It’s all for fun so I’m going to go with the auto tune module. It's primarily for the popping on decel with the after market pipes. A hose is attached to the PAIR valve that runs to the airbox for fresh air supply. I (assume) the same applies for the RC51. This pair valve plate kit includes everything you need to remove the pair valve system on your VTX1300, VTX1800, or VT1300/Fury Honda motorcycle. the pair valve disrupts scavenging, particularly when you just crack the throttle. I've done the pair valve mod on my VTX when I had it. 03volusiarider Help locating PAIR valve '04 VFR800 I want to do the pair blockoff mod on my '04 VFR. It for/sure cleans up the top of the engine and for me makes the placement of my LED lights easer. The flapper mod sounds like the one I'd like to do first. Please note that disabling your PAIR valves is not a performance modification, but is a good change to make when you have a Powercommander (and particularly an Autotune module) to get the best fuel mixture dialled in. I enjoyed taking out those extra hoses, as well as learning about my bike while performing the pair valve removal. ( If you do it get the plates with the dimples ). Now that you've got dimples can we call you Shirley Temple???? When the VFR went to the first fuel injected model the PAIR valve was still used again to clean up emissions without any problems. Just picked up this new exhaust for my 2014 ninja 650. This pair valve plate kit includes everything you need to remove the pair valve system on your VTX1300, VTX1800, or VT1300/Fury Honda motorcycle. VTX Cafe Forum is for owners of Honda VTX 1300 or VTX 1800. The reason for this is that the VTEC model had an O2 sensor fitted in the exhaust. One comes out of the right side of the airbox and goes to the rear valve cover. Half way it sounds like a car with cam. Odin? This will remove the popping and backfiring that you get on decel and when you upshift/downshift. The PAIR system is controlled by the ECM using check valves and a solenoid. This is a walk-through for removing the PAIR valve assembly and the secondary air system with all the hoses and junk that are associated with them. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. ", “A Citizen may not be required to offer a ‘good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The pair valve is basically a solenoid that allows filtered air to be drawn (Venturi effect) into the exhaust and helps to detonate any unburned fuel to make all the alphabet agencies happy. Modified Throttle Mate, Tornado Intake, Cobra Dragsters, Factory Pro Kit w/ Long-boy, DARKSIDE GYTT 205/70/15, All Balls Bearings & Fork Seals, Mustang Seat, Memphis Fats 19", Saddlemen Shock Cut-out Bags w/ EZ Brackets, Jafrum SB7 Sissy Bag, Stock Shock Mod, National Cycle Paladin Hwy Bars, Cobra Sissy, Kury Engine Covers, Kury License Plate Frame w/ Bolt Lights & RTB w/ Bezels, Glens CPR & 2" Headlight Ext, MADCO Temp-Stick, Choke Removed. I'm unsure what the PAIR valve is. By blocking the pair valves I've streamlined the flow of air, and have removed the possibility of decel popping (that's the sound people rave about... when you let off the throttle it won't ever backfire-decel pop etc...). It is only needed to be done after changing the exhaust it stops the popping on the over run its very simple to do just remove the hose from the pump on the airbox and blank off the hole on the cylinder head sorry got no pictures but i do have a big bag of caps for blanking off the intakes Some say it sounds better, a few even say no difference. The PAIR system is controlled by the ECM using check valves and a solenoid. vtxcafe.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company. The PAIR valve completes the burn of exhaust gases in the pipes. This is a mod usually done with an aftermarket exhaust, right? I've seen a lot of different people talking about removing the pair valve. It is only needed to be done after changing the exhaust it stops the popping on the over run its very simple to do just remove the hose from the pump on the airbox and blank off the hole on the cylinder head sorry got no pictures but i do have a big bag of caps for blanking off the intakes Discussion in 'Mods, Upgrades, Accessories and Products' started by flatstickHRC, Apr 23, 2011. Removal of the PAIR system will yield three main benefits: 1) weight reduction 2) reduction of engine compartment clutter 3) increase in the scavenging ability of the exhaust system. On a car it uses HP to turn an air pump (no pump on the VTX), and the air is injected into the exhaust manifold near the port. There are a lot of ways to go about it... From marbles in the hose to block off plates. Your IP: 149.28.141.51 By removing the assembly you will only really be cleaning up the top of the motor and ensuring that no condensation will build up inside the system if it was capped or plugged by installing an aftermarket air box. It did nothing for power. Just basically cleaned the motor area up. Content on vtxcafe.com is generated by its users. But I like it the most because it cleans up the bike..gets a bunch of junk off it for cheap and just a little time. The pair valve on the other hand is worth your time. There is only one 'Pair Valve' BLOCK-OFF! There are two hoses coming out of my airbox. :bleh::bleh::bleh: Honda VTX 1300 / VTX 1800 Motorcycles Forum. Removing it simply does away with the what the Government wants your syatem to do regarding emisions. Then the VTEC model came along and it all went wrong. PAIR valve mod. On a car it uses HP to turn an air pump (no pump on the VTX), and the air is injected into the exhaust manifold near the port. Trace these 4 hoses, one is the big hose that plugged into the back of the airbox, one is a vacuum line, and the other 2 go to the reed valves on top of the motor (one in front, one in back). Hi the pair valve mod will be no use to you until you take the restrictor kit off. :hmm2:I just done the 1800 and it helped the sound ( got rid of that shasha sound and maybe a little deeper ). There are 4 hoses coming from the PAIR valve. When replacing the stock airbox with an aftermarket, most manufacturers instruct you to plug the hose to the PAIR valve. 2002 - 2009 (and now 2014+, kind of) Honda VFR 800 Interceptor Modification Page The system works by a venturi effect- FROM THE EXHAUST VALVES ONLY. I just blocked the holes using a boat and Hose until my plates arrived. Join this community to discuss mods, specs, parts & more! But if I'm gonna order plates to block it off, then I'll just order plates for the pair mod too and do it all at once. • Is this the only benefit ? 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